This article contains reflections on my last conversation with Peter Lomas. As a consequence of this interchange, I consider Peter's inheritance of Sandor Ferenczi's therapeutic legacy. Some critics of the work of both practitioners insinuated that their ideas and practice amounted
to a form of 'wild analysis': I examine this mistaken attribution and argue that the creativity inherent in their therapeutic ideas and practice was wrongly perceived as 'wild analysis'. I consider Peter's misgivings in relation to Winnicott's ideas about regression in therapy, predicated
on idealisation of the mother-baby relationship and entailing undue idealisation of the therapist-patient relationship without due attention being paid to the role of the father. I muse upon Peter's love of football, seeing it as a metaphor for the practice of psychotherapy.